Why Sasuke Uchiha is a Terribly Written Character

naruto_692___evil_sasuke_by_tenmax68-d7yw12tSasuke Uchiha is one of the most polarizing characters in shōnen anime. He had fan girls and emo boys ready to fight to the death to defend his honor and even now there are anime analyzing commentators willing to make entire videos explaining why he was such a great character. From the title of this post, you might deduce that I fall on the other side of this equation. Sasuke was a generic revenge-motivated Gary Stu, who, through a convoluted twist, becomes a bad guy with too many character inconsistencies to take seriously. Even if Kishimoto hadn’t admitted to it, which he has, it was obvious that he was coming up with Sasuke’s story as he was writing it, for he couldn’t seem to decide whether he was a badass with a traumatic past, or as I took him, an overly emotional, irrationally motivated spastic.

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Sasuke really is a testament of Kishimoto’s terrible writing, both in its inconsistencies and its lack of set up for important plot points. Right from the beginning we are told AND shown that Sasuke is a focused, coldly rational “genius” shinobi governed by the code of surviving to avenge his clan as well as to prevent himself from going down any path his brother, Itachi, might have taken. Up until a certain point, his character remains relatively consistent. Whenever he did something overly emotional it was generally due to being affected by the Cursed Seal or in reaction to Itachi himself. However, after Itachi shows how weak Sasuke is (and Gaara before him), we begin to see how irrational Sasuke is in his desperation get the strength he needs to kill him. This is where the inconsistencies with his character begins to reveal themselves.

sasuke-uchiha-sasuke-naruto-shippuden-uchiha-itachi-1366x768-wallpaperIn the later parts of the first series, Sasuke’s emotions completely take dominance and undermine his reason: He charges at Itachi three times when he knows he can’t win and he flees to seek Orochimaru’s help to kill Itachi despite knowing that Orochimaru was easily defeated by Itachi (the reason he wants his body). Even after learning that Itachi’s actions were for the greater good of The Hidden Leaf, instead of following his path, he decides that redirecting his hatred and revenge at the people Itachi worked with and starting an all out war is the better option. Although these are all good examples of Sasuke doing something incredibly stupid from being overly emotional, he doesn’t go full retard until he decides to support Madara’s war EVEN after learning of Itachi’s motive for killing the Uchiha and what he sacrificed to prevent such a thing.

tumblr_inline_o2uvlvzrhc1s779s8_500Don’t get me wrong. It could be interpreted that Sasuke had an identity crisis after realizing that Itachi was a “victim” due to the Konoha’s leaders exploiting his hatred of war to kill the Uchiha and prevent their uprising. But this context doesn’t really stop Itachi from being a blind tool. He didn’t have to follow their orders, after all, it was not a unanimous decision to have the Uchiha killed as the Third Hokage voted against it. But even if it had been, he could have just killed those involved with the coup, but no, he killed EVERYONE but Sasuke. Despite his motivation to stop war, or maybe even because of it, Itachi doing what he did was a dick move considering its consequences. However, not only was Sasuke blind to this fact and began fighting to avenge him, but he was also blind to the fact that by avenging Itachi against Konoha he was causing the very thing Itachi died trying to prevent.

sasuke-uchiha-itachi-uchiha-sharingan-narutoA testament to Kishimoto’s bad writing was that it wasn’t until this was revealed to Sasuke by Obito that certain parts of Sasuke’s flashbacks (which hadn’t been seen in previous – lengthy – retellings of Sasuke’s backstory) was just conveniently inserted into Sasuke’s memory to increase the impact of the revelation. That’s the equivalent of remembering an important part of a set-up for a joke you forgot to add so you just sneakily slide it in right before delivering the punchline, ironically taking away any punch the line might have had. To put the cherry on the cake, even after Sasuke learns that Obito lied to him about Madara’s involvement in the Nine-tails invasion, it doesn’t put a dent in his resolve, despite this showing that it was really him who caused the Uchiha coup, and in turn, their destruction.

tumblr_m3xuz7rajm1rw2jaio1_500Even after he sorts all this nonsense out with his resurrected brother and learns the true reason behind Itachi’s actions (trying to prevent war), his motives were still irrational and overly emotional. His final authoritarian goal to stop war through fear is retarded. He wanted to kill all leaders and put himself up as a common enemy people will hate together, who else can see where this plan might go wrong? (Like him dying for one!) It becomes so convoluted that it takes losing an arm to make him realize how retarded it is, and even then he only submits because Naruto is more childishly stubborn about his ideals than he is. When a character’s motives are obviously irrational from them being emotionally unstable, it’s hard to see why anyone’s favorite character would be such an over-powered spaz.

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88 Responses to Why Sasuke Uchiha is a Terribly Written Character

  1. Pouls says:

    You lost it when you started defending Itachi, that character is written like shit

    • Lazarinth says:

      Oh my god, I must have reread the part on Itachi a hundred times now and I still can’t see how people can possibly think I’m defending him. Please, for the love of God, quote the part of this commentary where I defend Itachi, because either I’m missing something or everyone who claims this can’t read for shit.

      I mean look at this quote!
      “But this context doesn’t really stop Itachi from being a blind tool. He didn’t have to follow their orders, after all, it was not a unanimous decision to have the Uchiha killed as the Third Hokage voted against it. But even if it had been, he could have just killed those involved with the coup, but no, he killed EVERYONE but Sasuke. Despite his motivation to stop war, or maybe even because of it, Itachi doing what he did was a dick move considering its consequences.”

      Blind tool. Dick move. How the fuck is this defending Itachi?

  2. Anonymous says:

    op of this post is a retard. sasuke deadass didn’t know orochimaru was defeated by itachi. we as readers know that, but sasuke isn’t us, he isn’t reading the manga like we do, he doesn’t have the knowledge we do. and even so, orochimaru still was sasuke’s best bet to become the strongest he could’ve been. orochimaru was stronger than anyone in konoha, that is a fact. this post is a joke, delete it.

    • Lazarinth says:

      1) Sasuke knows Orochimaru wants his body. 2) Sasuke knows Itachi is stronger than him. Ergo, Sasuke knows Orochimaru couldn’t defeat Itachi, otherwise he would have taken his body long ago.
      https://images.app.goo.gl/HrGqZ5k1iiUBDREc7

      • Anonymous says:

        ????? i know there was a flashback with orochimaru challenging itachi and losing at some point, but i don’t remember exactly when that happened, was it shippuden?
        your argument is faulty either way. how was sasuke, before he left konoha in part 1, supposed to know for sure whether itachi and orochimaru have met or not before for orochimaru to have the chance to get itachi’s body? it’s not like orochimaru gave him the briefing about his previous encounter(s) with itachi. besides, orochimaru is interested in a lot of people, him going for sasuke’s body does not automatically prove he couldn’t get itachi’s (and orochmaru even said to sasuke that he sensed inside of him a potential which far suprassed itachi’s, which may have easily led sasuke to believe orochimaru had no interest in itachi in the first place). we as readers know that orochimaru failed to get itachi because we had the chance to eventually see orochimaru’s flashbacks, but sasuke doesn’t have that chance. you’re really going through some mental hoops here.
        and anyway, even if sasuke knew orochimaru was weaker than itachi, he also knew that he was also stronger than hiruzen (the third hokage and the one considered the strongest i the village) and stronger than many other people in konoha. you still provided no counter argument to what i said, which is, wheteher sasuke knew orochimaru was weaker than itachi or not, orochimaru was still sasuke’s best bet to become stronger.
        i have an advice for you. take some iq tests. there are plenty of free ones online. if you score lower than 110/120, stop replying and go buy yourself some additional braincells.

      • Pouls says:

        Thats a strong leap there

      • Anonymous says:

        “sasuke knows orochimaru wants his body” he wanted to betray orochimaru , form a team so that nobody interrupts his and itachi’s fight , return back to the village , and “he wouldve taken his body long ago” theres a 3 year limit and orochimaru already used it while waiting for sasuke

  3. Ana Vasiliu says:

    Your post just shows you have no understanding, or a very shallow, surface level at best understanding of Sasuke’s character. “Sasuke was a generic revenge-motivated Gary Stu” That’s when I realized your post is not even worth reading through. If you call Sasuke of all people a “Gary Stu” you don’t know what the fuck you’re actually talking about, you’re just throwing random words around in an attempt to look smart. Educate yourself on what a Gary Stu character actually is before starting to label characters as Gary Stues. Sasuke is the farthest thing from a Gary Stu, and you even proved it in the rest of your post. “Sasuke knew Itachi defeated Orochimaru, yet he still chose to go to Orochimaru for power” Did he know tho? I highly doubt Orochimaru told him that Itachi defeated him. Or maybe I just don’t remeber, it’s been a long time since I read the manga.. But anyway, even if he knew, that does not change the fact that Orochimaru was stronger than everyone in Konoha, he litterally killed Hiruzen, many other people and destroyed a good chunk of the village, something that, according to Sasuke’s knowledge, no one else in Konoha could’ve done. Orochimaru literally killed the one who was considered the strongest in the village, the hokage. And on top of that, in Shippuden Sasuke literally stated that he knew than neither he himself nor Orochimaru could take Itachi by themselves, but with their powers combined, they could’ve. Sasuke used Orochimaru the entire time.
    The thing with so many Sasuke haters is that you complain Sasuke is apparetly a Gary Stu while not realizing that you wanted him to be an actual Gary Stu (a perfect character with no flaws who does not do anything problematic ever). There are plenty of well thought analyzes regarding Sasuke’s character who explain his motivations and reasons for why he’s acting the way he is acting in depth (I’ve personally seen a lot on Tumblr), which prove how he is not even remotely close to a terribly written character. Amazingly written? Debatable. But terribly written? Definetly not. You should read them, educate yourself, and then you wouldn’t feel the need to make stupid, half assed, tone deaf posts like these. Anyway, anyone who uses “over-powered spaz” and “retarded” in their supposed “analysis” is not worth taking seriously. Have a nice day.

    • Lazarinth says:

      Odd how you wrote such a long post for something you didn’t take seriously. I think my main point can be summed up with:
      “A testament to Kishimoto’s bad writing was that it wasn’t until this was revealed to Sasuke by Obito that certain parts of Sasuke’s flashbacks (which hadn’t been seen in previous – lengthy – retellings of Sasuke’s backstory) was just conveniently inserted into Sasuke’s memory to increase the impact of the revelation. That’s the equivalent of remembering an important part of a set-up for a joke you forgot to add so you just sneakily slide it in right before delivering the punchline, ironically taking away any punch the line might have had.”
      If you think it’s good writing to shoe-horn in an important plot point right before a reveal rather than in prior foreshadowing, I think you disagree with one of the most important elements in story there is: Chekhov’s gun.

      • Ana Vasiliu says:

        It only took me a few minutes to write that first reply. And it isn’t even that long of a post anyway. And you literally didn’t adress any of the points I’ve made in that reply and instead conveniently chose to brush over them and bring up a different point. “A testament to Kishimoto’s bad writing was that it wasn’t until this was revealed to Sasuke by Obito that certain parts of Sasuke’s flashbacks (which hadn’t been seen in previous – lengthy – retellings of Sasuke’s backstory) was just conveniently inserted into Sasuke’s memory to increase the impact of the revelation. That’s the equivalent of remembering an important part of a set-up for a joke you forgot to add so you just sneakily slide it in right before delivering the punchline, ironically taking away any punch the line might have had.”
        If you think it’s good writing to shoe-horn in an important plot point right before a reveal rather than in prior foreshadowing, I think you disagree with one of the most important elements in story there is: Chekhov’s gun.”
        You really thought you did something, huh? That is actually irrelevant. There is literally one single instance in the story where Kishimoto “conveniently inserted into Sasuke’s memory certain parts of Sasuke’s flashbacks which we haven’t seen before to increase the impact of the revelation”. Literally the only thing that was “conventiently inserted” which we haven’t seen prior to that was Itachi crying before he left the village during that night. That was the only major “conveniently inserted part” (if there were any others, send the links with the specific chapters). And if you take psychology into account here, it makes sense that Sasuke supressed that memory and he only remembered it after Obito revealed him the truth. After all, during the night of the massacre, Sasuke not ony had to walk by the dead bodies of numerous of his clan’s members and relatives, but he also saw the lifeless bodies of his parents, which is extremely traumatic in itself. Take the fact that the murderer was Itachi, a person he loved and admired, and the fact that Itachi literally put him in a genjutsu that forced him to relieve everything over and over again, and you really think it doesn’t make sense that Sasuke’s (young and impressionable might I add) mind would be affected enough that he would repress certain memories, especially since he was so young at the time?
        The fact that you’re choosing to focus on this single instance and ignore everything else to prove how Sasuke is apparently oh so ”terribly written” is nothing short of laughable and pathetic. In the end, to determine how well written a character is you have determine if their actions make sense given everything we know about them, and in order to do that you have to consider everything, each panel of their characterization, not only to cherrypick certain parts of it. As someone who loves to read and who has an interest in psychology, to me everything that Sasuke did made perfect sense. You say he’s a bad character because he’s overly emotional and makes irrational decisions, congrats pal, you’ve just described pretty much every kid/teenager. Sasuke was a kid and a teenager during the entire manga until chapter 700, the epilogue, and you think him being emotionally driven and sometimes irrational makes him a bad character, after everything he’s been through? Imma have to laugh at that. And everyone with an ounce of common sense would laugh at you.
        Give it up already. Your “arguments” are terrible and I frankly think deep down you know that, that’s why you deliberately chose to ignore everything else I’ve said in my previous reply. Anyway, I don’t have the patience to repeat myself over and over again. I’ve already argued with people who used the same tired, pathetic rhetoric as you in the past and at least some of them had the decency to admit they were wrong. I can send you links to numerous blogs that made detailed analyzes about Sasuke if you’re still not convinced you were wrong with this post. It wouldn’t hurt to see a different perspective from people who are more educated than both of us in matters related to good writing and what makes for a well written charater. Or at least admit you are some kid and then I’ll understand and won’t bother with you any longer. I have no desire or patience to debate with kids who have yet to intelectually develop.

    • Lazarinth says:

      You do seem to have the time considering you seem to reply with even larger replies.
      You say my point is irrelevant but then concede to it for some reason.
      Your points are these:
      1) I don’t know what a Gary Stu is (or I disagree with your idea of Gary Stu)
      2) Sasuke didn’t know that Itachi beat Orochimaru (and apparently never wandered why Orochimaru never went after an Uchiha clearly stronger than him too :0)
      3) Orochimaru killed Hiruzen (who himself admits he was past his prime)
      4) That Sasuke thought to combine his power with Orochimaru could’ve beat Itachi (because we all know that 2+3 is greater than 6)
      5) You don’t think that shoe-horning in story element isn’t terrible storytelling (I could think of 2 that I’m not going to scan the entire series to find, but you just reminded me of a third)
      6) You think that word like retarded make not taking my argument seriously (and then reply twice to show otherwise)
      Each point replied to.

      • Anonymous says:

        “You do seem to have the time considering you seem to reply with even larger replies.”
        Yes I do have time, it’s Sunday afternoon, I have a free day. Is that a problem or relevant to the argument?
        “You say my point is irrelevant but then concede to it for some reason.” ????????
        If that’s what you got from what I said then your reading comprehension skills are even worse than I’ve thought.
        “Your points are these:
        1) I don’t know what a Gary Stu is (or I disagree with your idea of Gary Stu)”
        My idea of a Gary Stu is literally what the official definition of a Gary Stu is, which you can find anywhere on the Internet: “A male version of a Mary Sue. seemingly perfect character with no flaws, or who always overpowers other characters.” That is the widely accepted definition of a Gary Stu character, which I agree with entirely. If your definition is different then your’re wrong point blank. Now please enlighten me how is Sasuke a Gary Stu, when Sasuke has plenty of flaws? You contradicted yourself, mate. Firstly you’ve said Sasuke was a Gary Stu and then preceeded to say he is ”overly emotional/makes irrational choices” (which are both flaws, flaws which you will never see in a Gary Stu character). That alone makes your post a joke, anyone who contradicts themselves like that is not a worthy opponent in any debate. The only reason I kept reading is because I have fun arguing and debunking shit like this. And I happen to have time.
        “2) Sasuke didn’t know that Itachi beat Orochimaru (and apparently never wandered why Orochimaru never went after an Uchiha clearly stronger than him too :0)” So what if he never wondered? We know that in Shippuden Sasuke acknowledged that Orochimaru went after him because he couldn’t get Itachi, we know that. But if part 1 Sasuke (a fucking 13/14 years old kid) didn’t wonder then that does not make him a badly written character lmfao). Why would’ve Orochimaru even gone after Itachi in the first place if he could’ve had an easier time going after Sasuke, especially since Orochimaru even said Sasuke’s potential was bigger than Itachi’s. Basically, going for Sasuke would’ve been easier and he had way more to gain than going for Itachi, that could’ve easily been Sasuke’s line of thought as well.
        “3) Orochimaru killed Hiruzen (who himself admits he was past his prime)”
        Was Sasuke there when Hiruzen admited that he was past his prime? Did Sasuke fucking witness their fight?????? Did he???? No, he only knew that Orochimaru killed Hiruzen, the one who was supposed to be the strongest in the village. Stop fucking grasping at straws to prove a point that doesn’t hold any water anyway.
        “4) That Sasuke thought to combine his power with Orochimaru could’ve beat Itachi (because we all know that 2+3 is greater than 6)”
        ??????? Ok now you’ve just confirmed me that you are braindead. So apparently Sasuke is a 2, Orochimaru is a 3 and Itachi is a 6, huh? I can as well say Sasuke is a 10, Orochimaru is a 9 and Itachi is a 5, it’s exactly as relevant as what you’ve just said. If you didn’t notice the sarcasm, I meant it’s irrelevant.
        “5) You don’t think that shoe-horning in story element isn’t terrible storytelling (I could think of 2 that I’m not going to scan the entire series to find, but you just reminded me of a third)”
        Shut up about this it’s literally only happened once 2324 chapters, it’s irrelevant and I’ve just explained to you why that instance you’ve mentioned isn’t such bad storytelling as you making it seem but I see you ignore everything or maybe your tiny little brain can’t process new information. It’ fine. Genetics is not very generous with everyone.
        “6) You think that word like retarded make not taking my argument seriously (and then reply twice to show otherwise)”
        “Each point replied to.”
        Each reply you made I debunked. Just answer me this question so we can get this over with. Are you under 20 years old? Or older? Because if you’re younger I have no desire to continue this. I don’t bully kids.

      • Anonymous says:

        ok so apparently you are a grown ass person, english graduate and a writer and yet still have problems comprehending a manga and a character aimed at middle school kids. sad. the standards must be really low where you’ve studied and graduated from for someone with such low comprehension skills to be able to get a degree.

    • Lazarinth says:

      I’m not the one using ad hominems. They do nothing for your counterarguments.
      1) The keyword in the definition your using is “seemingly”.
      2) Your argument regarding Sasuke ‘knowing’ justifies my point about his screwy motive.
      3) Irrelevant in the grand scheme of my argument as the point was Sasuke finding someone who would help him beat Itachi, and someone with his “brains” could’ve easily put together that Orochimaru couldn’t, and didn’t.
      4) Damn right a 6, Itachi defeated Orochimaru when he was 14.

      5) Yup, too lazy to provide evidence on this one (there is a lot of that shitty manga to look through), but yes, even one example of bad writing is testament, but there are entire videos around plot holes in the Naruto manga:



      6) I was when I wrote this post (it was like nearly four years ago), but it still brings a smile to my face when people try to “debunk” it and make fools of themselves. Seriously, check out this comment section. I’ve come across every counterargument there is and wasted them all, all without using ad hominem or brushing away logic but actually listing their points and dismantling them one by one. I’m pretty impressed with how patient I can be with these loonies.

      • Anonymous says:

        “1) The keyword in the definition your using is “seemingly”.”
        Sasuke isn’t a Gary Stu, whether you include the word “seemingly” or not in that definition. I see that you like being in denial and refuse to acknowledge your mistake. Says a lot about your level of maturity.
        “2) Your argument regarding Sasuke ‘knowing’ justifies my point about his screwy motive.”
        It doesn’t justify shit. You completely ignore every factor (and there were a lot of factors) that came into play and determined Sasuke to go to Orochimaru. There are countless posts that explain well enough why his decision to leave the village and go to Orochimaru made sense. You’re just ignorant and like living in your small bubble without ever considering other perspectives.
        “3) Irrelevant in the grand scheme of my argument as the point was Sasuke finding someone who would help him beat Itachi, and someone with his “brains” could’ve easily put together that Orochimaru couldn’t, and didn’t.”
        “Orochimaru couldn’t and didn’t”???? I’m sorry, during their fight in Shippuden Itachi was literally pushed to his limits (he literally had to resort to his most powerful tehniques, amaterasu and susanoo) and the only reason he survived Sasuke’s Kirin was that he had Susanoo. Orochimaru definetely helped Sasuke become much stronger than he was in part 1. If Orochimaru wasn’t the one to help him beat Itachi, then who could’ve been, in your humble opinion? Kakashi? Lol. Tsunade? Lol. Who should’ve Sasuke asked to train him to become strong enough to defeat Itachi, huh? Who? I’m really curious to hear your brilliant input on that. Fact is, Orochimaru was stronger than anyone in Konoha at that time and the only one that offered Sasuke an opportunity for gaining power. Sasuke wasn’t going to get as strong as he could’ve had if he stayed in Konoha. Orochimaru provided him with the best opportunity to get stronger quickly. That is a fact. Your point does not matter in the slightest bit. Had Sasuke remained in Konoha, he would’ve stayed weak.
        “4) Damn right a 6, Itachi defeated Orochimaru when he was 14.”
        I think you severely underestimate Orochimaru and Sasuke. The only reason Orochimaru lost to Itachi was Itachi’s Sharingan, other than that Orochimaru was far more experienced than Itachi, was also a genius and had way more tehniques available to him. Who’s to say that if Sasuke, who also had Sharingan, combined with Orochimaru, wouldn’t have been able to take Itachi? You’re severely downgrading Orochimaru and Sasuke while, for some reason, overestimating the shit out of Itachi. That guy literally ain’t shit without his Sharingan. Tell me one tehnique Itachi can use that isn’t one given by his Sharingan. One. Meanwhile Sasuke learned countless tehniques independent of his sharingan, even developing his own S Rank tehnique before he was even 16 years old. Sasuke was able to overcome Itachi’s MS genjutsu with a basic 3 tomoe sharingan, he was able to push Itachi to his limits without even having a Mangekyo, Itachi even acknowledged that Sasuke became very powerful. Both Itachi and Orochimaru acknowledged that Sasuke had more potential than Itachi. So how pray tell is Sasuke a 2, and Itachi a 6???? Sasuke is Indra’s transmigrant, not Itachi, if anything, Sasuke is a 10, and Itachi is a 2 and that is canon whether you like it or not. Had Sasuke chosen to kill Naruto in part 1 at the valley of the end and gotten MS he would’ve won his fight with Itachi fair and square. Stop acting like a fucking 14 years old Sasuke should’ve known everything, including exactly how powerful Orochimaru was or wasn’t, down to the last detail, and that not knowing makes him automatically the worst written character ever. Just say you hate Sasuke and go, because frankly, every point you think you’re making screams “I’m biased, I hate this character, I’m incapable of analyzing him objectively”. You’re the one ignoring logic. You.
        “6) I was when I wrote this post (it was like nearly four years ago), but it still brings a smile to my face when people try to “debunk” it and make fools of themselves. Seriously, check out this comment section. I’ve come across every counterargument there is and wasted them all, all without using ad hominem or brushing away logic but actually listing their points and dismantling them one by one. I’m pretty impressed with how patient I can be with these loonies.”
        Oh, look, how cute, the baby kitten thinks he’s a lion. Have you taken that Iq test? How much did you score? 80? 90? Honey, you are the one who made a fool of yourself. You, and all the others who insulted Sasuke in this comment section, calling him “faggot”, “weetard” and many other shit like that. “brushing away logic”? You are the one doing that. You’ve not debunked shit, trust me.
        5. You really using videos made by CBR? I have read many of the articles on their website, most of them full of shit and misinformation, made by fools who either didn’t read the manga, either didn’t comprehend it. I’m not going to bother watching all that crap. Yes, I am aware Naruto wasn’t entirelly well written, and that there were plot holes, but Sasuke’s character isn’t the biggest problem, neither the worst written part of it. And if you’re not going to go have a read of some well thought analyses some other people made to prove how Sasuke is not a badly/terribly written character, I have no interest in watching these stupid videos either. I’m at my limit. Go on tumblr, search dushman-e-jaan (a sasuke fan who has made multiple compelling analyzes about the manga and Sasuke’s character, who also studies literature if I’m not mistaken. You may find some enlightenment once you try to detach yourself from you obvious distaste for this character and try to look at him in a more objective manner).

    • Lazarinth says:

      Lmao, you cyberstalking me now? You must be desperate.
      What do they teach you in debate classes, if you can’t win with your arguments alone, use as many ad hominems as possible?
      Stick to the points, or you’ve admitted defeat.

      • Anonymous says:

        Cyberstalking? Lol. I just clicked onto that “About” button at the top of the page. Is that wrong? Is it illegal? Didn’t know it qualifies as cyberstalking.
        “What do they teach you in debate classes, if you can’t win with your arguments alone, use as many ad hominems as possible?”
        Oh please, shut up with your ad hominems. You’re a grown ass man, you can’t take it being called stupid on the Internet? Is your ego that fragile? And maybe the reasons I can’t win with my arguments alone is because you ignore them, don’t understand them, gush over them, are to biased to understand them, or simply too stupid to understand them. Ever considered it? It becomes frustrating to explain yourself over and over again just for people not to understand, it feels like screaming at a wall, hence why some people very often resort to “ad hominems”. It’s a way to relieve frustration.

  4. Shane M McCausland says:

    Sasuke was a WEETARD!!!!!! Kakashi developed the MS on his own without focusing on hatred, and is the legendary copy ninja. Whos to say how strong sasuke could have gotten if he focused his training with kakashi instead of running off, becoming a literal monster with the curse mark, and risking getting eaten by Orochmaru.

    Itachi being a good guy is a total RETCON! But besides that, if we just bend over and accept bad writing itachi is a good guy (Whatever), remember he killed innocents as well and probably infants, sasuke gos against his brothers wishes and vowes to destroy the leaf. What a bitch ass punktard worst character ever besides itachi retcon I agree author.

    • Anonymous says:

      kakashi is useless even with a sharingan. even more useless than sakura.if sasuke stayed in the village and trained with kakashi he would’ve been a weakling, like kakashi. must sting that even with a ms kakashi couldn’t take any major antagonist on his own in part 2 and got steamrolled by a half blind and almost out of chakra sasuke. you’re wanking the wrong character.

  5. Hello says:

    Sasuke is the greatest and most iconic anti-heroes of all time.
    Only people with shallow intellect like the one who wrote this article (probably in his basement of course) would not be able to relate or empathize with him.
    Everything he said made sense in one way or another.
    I would do the exactly the same if I were him. I’ve my own goals and am not obligated to fulfill the wishes a genocidal psychopath like Itachi, who ruined Sasuke’s life. To me Itachi was merely a bootlicker of Konoha’s higher ups like Danzo.

    Come at me bro! I’ll gladly take you on.

    • Lazarinth says:

      I don’t question your preference, there’s no point. But if you think I’m defending Itachi in this post, what I do question is your reading comprehension skills/lack of. Seriously, take your time and read this excerpt:
      “But this context doesn’t really stop Itachi from being a blind tool. He didn’t have to follow their orders, after all, it was not a unanimous decision to have the Uchiha killed as the Third Hokage voted against it. But even if it had been, he could have just killed those involved with the coup, but no, he killed EVERYONE but Sasuke. Despite his motivation to stop war, or maybe even because of it, Itachi doing what he did was a dick move considering its consequences.”
      If even this failed to convince you that I thought Itachi’s actions were stupid, then there’s no point “coming at you” because there’s no point in getting into a text-based argument with someone who can’t read properly. However, if your comment was deliberately obtuse and malformed, and you did pick this up and still agree with Sasuke’s decision to avenge Itachi (despite our agreement that Itachi’s decision was clearly idiotic and, as you put, psychopathic) then you self-admittedly think that avenging family members who are clearly psychopaths is a good idea.
      At that point, I don’t question your preference or your reading comprehension; I question your ethics and wonder if your tribalism will even allow you to have an argument in good faith. So, be it due to you being unable to read or agreeing with people who try to avenge psychopaths, I really don’t see the point in “coming at you, bro”.
      The only reason I’m replying is to ask you one question: which of these is the case? Because it’s one or the other.

  6. Anonymous says:

    I believe that when Itachi beat the living hell out of him in the motel corridor he got severe brain damage.

    • Anonymous says:

      Notice how he only starts being dumb after that encounter 🥸

      • Lazarinth says:

        You’re right, his motives before that fight make sense, but not after. Going to Orochimaru for powet (despite the reveal that Itachi defeated him), starting a war to avenge Itschi (despite it being against Itachi’s primary motive), and finally deciding to unite the coutry through fear of his power (despite legacy over a singal life as a more stable government being a key theme to his character journey). Each motive past “I must get strong enough to kill my brother” becomes more and more illogical.

  7. Hatashida says:

    Lol Sasuke was like 16 at the end of the series of course he was a bipolar autist. Expecting rational decisions out of a teenager with PTSD is pretty lame.

    • Anonymous says:

      Still, even after the very last fight, can’t he have some normal sense in him? “I want to destroy, and rebuild.” What a retarded fucking mess. Fuck this guy and fuck this anime, worst arc and ending to a show ever. Lazy lazy lazy + art block

  8. Anonymous says:

    Sasuke is a emo loser faggot

  9. Anon says:

    But…but Sasuke’s hot tho 😦

  10. Yue Beh says:

    I was rewatching the final battle of Sasuke vs Naruto, and I was at the point where Sasuke talked about his view of being “Hokage”. I just stopped halfway as he just doesn’t make sense. I really never understood how and why he made his choices. Then again, Itachi also doesn’t make sense sometimes. The whole Uchiha clan is so convoluted in their way of thinking.

  11. Anonymous says:

    The worst thing about his revolution, is that he had just fought 3 people who tried to do everything themselves

    How in the world doesnt he realise by fighting them that you cant do everything by yourself.

    He gets a hard reminder of that fact, when he says to sakura that she doesnt need to know what was happening during infinite ts. Because she is useles as is kakashe

    but it was because of that same ‘useles’ sakura that he was able to get back frm the sand dimension, and it was bec of her that they were able to seal kaguya

    even when naruto tels him this he doesnt even answer that argument and just smirks.

    If he had succeeded the world would have been doomed, as you can see otsutsukis stil roam around

    • Christopher Keene says:

      Probably going to a follow-up blog going through the issues step by step.

      • Cory says:

        @Luisa lmao you can’t be this retarded
        Saucegay was just a spoiled fag that complained about EVERYTHING an kept trying to put everyone in his problems

        Had Naruto fought with the intention of killing ? Saucegay wouldn’t be alive rn

  12. Luisa says:

    “Even after learning that Itachi’s actions were for the greater good of The Hidden Leaf, instead of following his path, he decides that redirecting his hatred and revenge at the people Itachi worked with and starting an all out war is the better option.” That I’m gonna have to disagree with. Sasuke loved Itachi and he knew what Itachi wanted of him (to go back to being a Leaf ninja and give his life to protect it), yes, but Sasuke DESPISED the Leaf. And rightfully so, since the Leaf is directly responsible for the demise of his clan and the death of his family. Sasuke couldn’t care less about the greater good of the Hidden Leaf Village and I don’t think it’s just because he was hurt about what it did to his life, I think Sasuke saw the Leaf as a source of evil. After all, he saw the shinobi world for what it truly was since he was a kid: a grim, cutthroat system that makes children fight to their deaths and villages kill each other just so that the few people in power keep being in power, all the while keeping up a facade of honour and idealism, having ninjas believe that dying for their village and commiting atrocities against others is the right thing to do. I just wish Kishimoto wrote this more clearly. It would be interesting to see Sasuke and Naruto’s fight as an ideological one better translated in the story. What is sad is that Sasuke was absoulutely right in wanting a revolution, but in the end it was Naruto who won and nothing changed in the shinobi system.

  13. Pepsei & potato wedges says:

    Hey! I clicked on this article out of curiosity. I love reading others’ dissections, it just adds more to one’s knowledge. However, I’m going to have to disagree with on everything except the ending Sasuke got.

    I think that Sasuke’s character is infused with conflict and self development. Conflict is when his goals keeps changing depsite his will. After the trauma of seeing his brother slaughter his parents and basically the people he grew up and got to see every single day of his younng life, it sure did take a an immense toll on him. Especially at such a young age. And honestly, speaking from experience, I understand Sasuke. Being hurt constantly, emotionally, is dangerous. It leads to dark thoughts—depression and from there suicide. Perhaps he did think about those as he was weak as a kid to kill Itachi, but when he met team seven and spent a good amount of time with them, he forgot his hate and pain. Even just for a little bit.

    But, when Itachi appears in Konoha again, everything nasty comes back to him. His hate intensities the moment Itachi tells him he’s weak. Hence, him snatching at any opportunity to posses power to take his revenge. It’s not Sasuke that is doing these things, it’s his mental illness that cocoons him and takes the lead. I bet deep down he was lost and terrified. He just wanted to be safe and loved at the end of the day. He was a kid when it all started, after all.

    I think Sasuke has the most character development of all of Naruto characters. Yes, he does change for the worse, and then pounce back to good, but that’s development. It doesn’t have to be a good change. Therefore, I think Sasuke is well-written character, with a rich background story, conflicts and goals.

    Regardless of the above, when Naruto ended, I was immediately got upset over the ending because it actually did not make sense. Like, at all. Sasuke, being obviously mentally ill, and a severely unstable personality, he should’ve being under heavy therapy. It was not right to just him be back in the village because so many people would disagree with having a criminal amongst them (especially Tsunade, who would at least detain him).

    I get that it is a ninja world and everyone has to be tough and strong, but Sasuke is just too screwed up to function normally. It didn’t make sense that he married Sakura either and had a kid with her. He wouldn’t have survived those lonely trips of his without feeling sad or vulnerable to the point that he’d think of ending it all.

    It just doesn’t make ANY sense!

    Anyway, despite disagreeing, I enjoyed reading your article!
    Looking forward for hearing what you think about my point of view. Have a good one!

    • Christopher Keene says:

      Refer to my earlier response where I acknowledge his starting point making sense, but going from there doesn’t: https://fantasyandanime.wordpress.com/2018/06/13/i-spent-too-much-time-on-this-rebuttal-not-to-post-it-heres-my-respronse-to-an-article-from-a-sasuke-fan-boy/
      Sasuke wanted to avenge their family by killing him.
      (This is the only part of Sasuke’s story that makes sense. If his story was one of his desire for revenge turns into a desire for justice for his people, there would actually be a moral to this story, but no.)

    • Anonymous says:

      His goal was to avenge his clan and restore the uchiha name,

      But that it just changed to killing his brother and to hel with the uchiha name, thats where i lost interest in sasuke,

      How could he not realise that going to the enemy is becoming the same person you hate

      sasuke gets portrayed as a smart person, why cant he realise its only fucking nrmal that he cant be as strong as itachi when he is stil a child.

      Naruto kept getting stronger while staying in the village even if he obviously had les skil to do so, what makes him think he could nt get stronger, i could understand if he had narutos personality, but he was always so analitical

      Even if his emotions got the best of him there was absoluly no reason to make himself an enemy to the village he actualy wanted to avenge (uchiha were part of the village)

      He even said he didnt want to follow itachis advise to kil his best friend, but then he goes to the man that almost killed that same friend.

      I can apreciate the story, but i can also aknowledge bad writing.

      Even Obito, trying to put naruto in despair, test after test, why were al those test needed. Obito fel into despair after losing 1 friend, naruto already lost multiple people before the shinobi war, he lost his closest father figure and stil did not give up, obitos tests were bad writing since he already saw that he doesnt give up, he talked about eventualy al de acumulative sadmes would pile up and would lead him astray. Obito himself was lead astray by 1 incident of sadnes, he is the last person that should test another, and kishimoto first making them super smart and knowledgeble just does not fit with their stupid actions

      Even infinite tsuk is stupid, even if people were happy there, it would be the last wave of humanity since no one is realy fucking, whats the point in controling people if they stop existing after max 100years

  14. Anonymous says:

    I totally agree with you.His character is garbage.However I wouldn’t blame him for his mentall problems.Itachi fucked him up pretty badly and it is redicilous how people try to defend this two characters(Sasuke and Itachi).Sasuke being over-emotional dosen’t justify his actions like trying to capture the eight tails,killing cloud nin,samurai’s,fighting the kages especially from a guy who was once called a “genius”.Same goes for Itachi.He is known in the manga and also in the naruto fandom in general as genius but he is not.Him killing his entire clan for a possible event of a possible coup(wich could have been avoided) it’s unjustifiable(don’t know if I wrote it right).He didn’t even try to talk to his father in order to change his mind but NOOOO he prefered genocide.He also knew that Tobi(wich he believed to be Madara) was responsible for the nine-tails attack wich was responsible for the conflict between the two sides and yet he tells NOBODY about him.That would have avoided the coup and solve the conflict.Just like you said he even killed the innocent people and babies.The whole “Uchiha massacre secret” played so bad for both of the character because it made it seem as if what Itachi did was heroic and unquesionable act when it was the opposite and it downgraded Itachi to a “good guy”.It also played bad for Sasuke because he should have hated Itachi even more after the truth insted of going against his “loving” brother’s desires for the sake of that”loving”brother.Anyway I think I talked more for Itachi the for Sasuke but who cared.I like your article and I have a question for you.Do you think Sasuke turning in the “good side” at the end was more of a downhill for him cuz to me it dind’t make sense?To me “Revolution Sasuke” was the best Sasuke throughout the series and even tho his plan was stupid,it was understandable.And for him to change his mind in the and because of Naruto’s talk no justu is…….disapointing.Also I would like to know your thought on Naruto and Sakura’s characters in short.

    • I think my answer to those questions can be summed up in the village’s reaction to them. Naruto as a child, as the son of the Hokage who sacrificed himself for them, is shunned by others because his negative emotions could release a monster, an action which would more likely lead to him releasing it. Doesn’t make sense. On the other side of the coin, Sasuke is from a super dangerous bloodline, is the brother of someone who massacred an entire clan, is not shunned by the village at all. Then he goes rogue and does exactly what his brother did to be shunned. Still, most of the ninja want him back. He becomes a mass murder, assists in the initiation of a war and still tries to manipulate the people by fear. All is forgiven at the end. This is what I mean by badly written.

    • Pouls says:

      /However I wouldn’t blame him for his mentall problems.Itachi fucked him up pretty badly /

      This is what people ignore a lot, they shit on Sasuke but sucks Itachi’s cock when that character’s written is full of shit and in order to make it work Kishimoto had to shit in a lot of characters to make Itachi a martyr.

      They ignore too the things Itachi did TO Sasuke.

  15. John Uchiha says:

    Lemme say something about the idiot who posted this dumb/vague article. You’re so full o’ shit. If it wasn’t for Sasuke, the Nartuto series would suck like the idiot who made this dumb article. He witnessed the death of all his clan and motivated by his idiotic brother he started looking for revenge, then he met Naruto and as time went own watching how Naruto grew stronger and stronger he couldn’t feel anything but anger because he thought he’ll never be as good as him and he thought he’ll never complete his objective because of that, when he left the village, it was clearly because he wanted to complete his objective and go on with his life but then after he managed to kill Itachi he realized that the people who actually made him suffer were the leaf village and he impulsively joined the Akatsuki because he wanted to destroy them, he didn’t care about the Akatsuki, he didn’t care about anyone, he cared about punishing what he saw as unjust, still, when he had the opportunity to destroy Konoha, he didn’t and he tried to search answer for his questions, he then realized that what happened to his clan was necessary and he realized why Itachi cared so much about the village. He realized why the leaf village was so important after listening to Hashimara’s story and then he went on to assist Naruto and the Allied Shinobi Forces in the war, after the battle against Kaguya, he thought that if there was no common enemy anymore there would be war between villages again so he assumed all the responsibility and fought Naruto to be alone and be the common enemy all the villages need to be united and be the one who punishes the guilty and protect the regular civilians but Naruto made him understand that there was hope and that he was going to sacrifice all of his life in the search of uniting the villages, so Sasuke believed him and started a journey to redeem himself from all the sins he impulsively made and decided to pursue the same dream as Naruto and help him as much as he can. Do you really think that Sasuke could’ve beaten let alone be on par with Itachi if he stayed in Konoha? Just take a look at Naruto. He just looked weak compared to Sasuke’s exponential growth. The guy had a mission, and no one was going to get in the way of him achieving his mission. And if achieving his mission meant having to abandon his friends, then so be it. I for one couldn’t be able to, but that just proves how immense Sasuke’s determination is. And that alone is admirable. The guy went on a complete rampage. And understandably so. Finding out the place you’ve called home for so long actually used your brother as the instrument for your own family’s demise can really take its toll on you.

    He grew from someone who didn’t care about anything but revenge to someone who would suffer all eternity just to maintain peace, he had a very mature way of seeing what happened in the fourth Shinobi War and why there was peace ’cause lets be honest, even tho Naruto managed to unite all villages it’s hard to believe that after a period of constant war and cases like the Hyuga clan with the land of the cloud and things like that it was really unlikely that the peace Naruto wanted was the ultimate one and would last forever.

    I just don’t know how fucking idiots can hate this guy. He went from living only for the singular purpose of killing his brother, to experiencing what its like to become a victim of the shinobi world.

    • Lazarinth says:

      I said he was badly written. Are you really saying that adding information to the build-up after a reveal is good writing? If not, you really need to learn about narrative. My joke analogy is spot on for this.

      • John Uchiha says:

        I strongly advise you to watch this video so that way you can get your head out of your ass and stop being another annoying hater. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omfoV_fEmPc

      • . says:

        Sasuke is well written. Your comprehension is at fault. I’ve already covered the many errors you’ve made, proving you wrong and even posting manga links so you could see for yourself. Yet you still hold on to your beliefs? Why?

        1) You’re too dumb to realize you’re wrong 2) You withheld your beliefs for so long that it’s hard for you to accept that you’re wrong. 3) Sasuke didn’t go down your preferred path (omg friends I love you! Oh shit! Itachi is a hero! Genocide is dope and was totally the only option available), so you claim he’s bad.

        Here’s an overview i made of his character. Put aside your bias and give it a read.

        imgur.com/a/Iybcq5z

      • Hello says:

        You are such a pathetic person. Do you still live in your moms basement?

    • Lazarinth says:

      Watched that ages ago, doesn’t change the argument. You obviously don’t care about that argument: “Adding a set up after a reveal is bad writing.” blatantly shown by you’re inability to answer my question. You say I have my head in my ass, yet you couldn’t answer one question, all you can do is name call, showing the weakness of your stance and the pointlessness of this conversation.

    • Christopher Keene says:

      Probably going to a follow-up blog going through the issues step by step.

  16. . says:

    “he doesn’t go full retard until he decides to support Madara’s war EVEN after learning of Itachi’s motive for killing the Uchiha and what he sacrificed to prevent such a thing.”

    “To put the cherry on the cake, even after Sasuke learns that Obito lied to him about Madara’s involvement in the Nine-tails invasion, it doesn’t put a dent in his resolve, despite this showing that it was really him who caused the Uchiha coup, and in turn, their destruction.”

    – He was never on Tobi’s side.

    http://mangaseeonline.us/read-online/Naruto-chapter-385-page-3.html

    He “joined” the Akatsuki for his own goals, not theirs, and planned on using them.This/the next page.

    http://mangaseeonline.net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-411-page-4.html

    Chapter 453, on his way to Konoha when Tobi stood in his way, he didn’t hesitate at all to attack him.He only went to the Summit for his target, Danzo, and after defeating him, he straight out told Tobi that they weren’t ally’s.

    http://mangaseeonline.net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-482-page-9.html

    Had him transplant Itachi’s eyes, and once he recovered he immediately killed the original White Zetsu, who was watching over him, destroyed his hideout, defeated the group of White Zetsu that confronted him, & opposed Tobi with the Alliance in the war.

    – Wanting to destroy Konoha was wrong but understandable. Sasuke felt that his entire family was used & betrayed for Konoha’s well being, toss aside like trash.The Uchiha were one of the two founding clans’ of Konoha. They were loyal & gave their lives for it’s protection for generations. Yet were falsely accused for the Kyuubi attack and mistreated for years. Held under heavy surveillance, they didn’t feel comfortable in their own village. Then, when they finally choose to rebel, they were ordered to be killed off by one of their own, with Itachi having to live the rest of his life as a hated criminal. All the anger Sasuke had toward Itachi, shifted toward Konoha, & with the new reveals, intensified even further. He loved his Brother but initially disagreed with him.

    Nonethelss after meeting up with Itachi again, seeing that he had no remorse or ill-will toward Konoha he wondered why & choose to speak with the Hokage to gain a better understanding of things. To gain the answers to all the questions he had. What is a Shinobi? What is a Village? Why are they important? etc. After listening to them he formed his decision & plan. Deciding to protect Konoha and the world from within the Shadows like a true Shinobi.

    “His final authoritarian goal to stop war through fear is retarded. He wanted to kill all leaders and put himself up as a common enemy people will hate together, who else can see where this plan might go wrong? (Like him dying for one!) ”

    – Sasuke’s Revolution plan was solid. He formed it based on the history of the Shinobi world & Itachi’s life.

    After 3 previous World Wars, and many clashes such as the Sound and Sand teaming up to invade and destroy Konoha, The Five Great Shinobi villages united for the first time in history for a couple days only because they were forced too in order to face a common enemy – the Akatsuki, in lead of Madara, whom had collected 7 Bijuu, and were going for the final 2. With such power, that was the absolute only way they could stand a chance against them. Sasuke believed that after the war they would seperate, and begin to clash again as they always have.

    Again, for the FIRST time in history, they united for A COUPLE DAYS, only because they had A COMMON ENEMY that they couldn’t possibly defeat alone. He wanted to play the role of the bad guy so they would stay united instead of eventually seperating and fighting each other. This/ the next page.

    http://mangaseeonline.net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-458-page-10.html

    http://mangaseeonline.net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-467-page-20.html

    http://mangaseeonline.net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-468-page-2.html

    http://mangaseeonline.net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-561-page-4.html

    http://mangaseeonline.net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-696-page-2.html

    & knowing that throughout history Shinobi always fought each other to attain the Bijuus power to use to better enforce their authority over others, Sasuke wanted to get rid of them so no one could ever abuse their power again. Rather than let these many massive sources of power roam free as if no one would ever go after, & succeed in capturing them again. A single Bijuudama can destroy a village. As long as they exist, there was a chance that someday someone could attain their power, and use them negatively.

    It’s logical that he believed they would seperate after the war, and it’s logical that he would want to get rid of the Bijuu. Agree? Infact, as of the Fourth Shinobi World War, the Bijuus gained more recognition than ever considering many people saw their power being displayed, and literally everyone felt it, hence the Infinite Tsukuyomi. This further increases the chance of people once again trying to attain the Bijuus power. Surely this information will be passed throughout the generations.

    Also, with his abilities, Sasuke has the capability to always be around.

    http://mangaseeonline.net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-696-page-3.html

    He could always improve his methods as time went on.

    “Even if Kishimoto hadn’t admitted to it, which he has,”

    Proof?

    ” it was obvious that he was coming up with Sasuke’s story as he was writing it,”

    Everything connected and made sense. Your reading comprehension is at fault. Now wrote an article about that.

    ” for he couldn’t seem to decide whether he was a badass with a traumatic past, or as I took him, an overly emotional, irrationally motivated spastic.”

    Clearly the former. You speak of SwagKage making a video about him (he makes videos about plenty of thing Naruto & Dragonball related), fans supporting him, & Sasuke being “emotional” when you yourself got so upset in regards to this manga/anime character that you made a whole article about it in response hoping to gain the suppport of others.

    • Lazarinth says:

      I never said ‘side’. They helped each other to reach similar goals. He was “using” them for a goal that they coerced him into wanting by leaving out crucial information. Allies or not, they worked together. I think the founding error can be summed up in the fact that Itachi didn’t have to kill them all. Itachi still made the choice, despite the Third not being on board with it and Danzo having obviously shifty motives. No matter how “passive” a writer claims a character is, Itachi’s actions prove otherwise. Stupid argument.

      My main criticisms, 1: Sasuke sought help from someone weaker than the one he wanted to defeat, 2: Sasuke went against his brother’s noble wishes for the sake of his brother and 3: his revolution idea was not solid: Any plan that relies all leadership and peace on a single person as an enemy is silly for the simple reason that Sasuke can be killed/die on his own, even with the rinnegan, and without him the plan is bunk. The fact that all of these decisions were emotionally driven from his overreactions is proof of his low E.I. Stupid argument.

      Proof of Mishimoto on Sasuke’s creation: US Shonen Jump April. Viz Media. 2007. p. 366.

      “You speak of (…drivel…) Sasuke being “emotional” when you yourself got so upset in regards to this manga/anime character that you made a whole article about it in response hoping to gain the support of others.”
      – Now this is just silly. This is obviously a counter argument with some humor thrown into it to make it seem emotional or like I’m more upset than I am. You obviously haven’t been a long time reader of mine, so I’ll forgive this assumption. That said, if that had been my point, mission accomplished.

      • . says:

        Testing

      • . says:

        It appears that inorder for my comment to post, i had to split up the links.

      • . says:

        I googled coerced.

        Coerced – persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats.

        This didn’t happen. Well, Tobi did threaten him. Sasuke’s response was a smirk and laugh.

        mangaseeonline. us/read-online/Naruto-chapter-404-page-15.html

        And like i said earlier, he attacked him when he stood in his way.

        mangaseeonline. us/read-online/Naruto-chapter-453-page-5.html

        The only time they could be considered to have worked together was the Hunt for the Bijuu. He had Sasuke to go after the Eight Tails. Even then Sasuke went with his own team, rather than any of the remaining Akatsuki, and he spoke of how he planned to use them.

        1) Sasuke wasn’t solely reliant on Orochimaru’s training to become stronger. He completely and thoroughly used him. He planned to do so from the very start.

        mangaseeonline. net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-348-page-2.html

        mangaseeonline.net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-343-page-14.html

        mangaseeonline. net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-343-page-16.html

        mangaseeonline. net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-579-page-4.html

        mangaseeonline. net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-346-page-7.html

        mangaseeonline. net/read-online/Naruto-chapter-363-page-16.html

        Used him to become stronger, did his own training whilst thoroughly studying his abilities in preparation for their eventual battle, completed his training – learning everything he could from him, waited for the time when he needed to switch bodies so he could reverse the ritual, and seal him into the Curse Mark to acquire his power.

        He knew Orochimaru was weaker than Itachi.

        mangaseeonline. us/read-online/Naruto-chapter-309-page-10.html

        He knew Orochimaru was weaker than himself aswell.

        mangaseeonline. us/read-online/Naruto-chapter-344-page-2.html

        Which is why he absorbed him. The Sasuke that faced Itachi was the combined power of himself & Orochimaru.

        2) It wasn’t just about Itachi. Yes Itachi of his own free will chose to sacrafice himself and their family for the village, but what about everyone else in their family? What about every single individual – man, woman, & child who were mercilessly ordered to be slaughtered. Should Sasuke have not considered their thoughts and only cared of Itachi’s? Is he not allowed to disagree with him? At this point Sasuke cared about his family more than Konoha. He didn’t understand why the village was so important.

        3) Most people can’t handle a single Tailed Beast. Sasuke casted Genjutsu on them – placing them all under his control, & sealed them with Chibaku Tensei with absolute ease even after having just fought in multiple battles. Then proceeded to have another one. He even became significantly stronger after the war. Who would kill him?

        His plan was formed based on facts and logic, not emotion. The only emotion involved was with with others. Making them all hate him.

        “Proof of Mishimoto on Sasuke’s creation: US Shonen Jump April. Viz Media. 2007. p. 366.”

        Link?

      • . says:

        So, are you going to admit that you’re wrong?

      • Lazarinth says:

        About what in particular.

      • . says:

        The things i addressed in my comments above.

    • Lazarinth says:

      I don’t know why you’re having this problem, no one else seems to. You just reply what you want to reply to the original comment. If you want to reply another way you could always email me at lazarinth75@gmail.com

    • Lazarinth says:

      Are you really saying that adding information to the build-up after a reveal is good writing? If not, you really need to learn about narrative. My joke analogy is spot on for this.

    • Made a post concerning your link.

    • Christopher Keene says:

      Probably going to a follow-up blog going through the issues step by step.

  17. Person says:

    Sounds like you’re really butthurt about SwagKage’s video.

  18. Anime_Girls_NYC says:

    I do not like sasuke’ characters. Super cute but not so annoying

  19. I just skipped to the end, buh totally agree that sasuke’s character development is a broken mess, hes just an emo with daddy problems. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzLBWOAwzM2b8CIhTbL55Toj6R-BpUxRCTJGW96BKRWfeGLmoc

    • Chikara - Sasuke Fan - Sasuke>Naruto - The Greatest Shinobi - Naruto X Hunter - Narutonevergivinup says:

      Itachi is the one who ensured Sasuke would have hatred and went revenge. That’s why he killed their parents infront of him and used his Mangekyo to force him to relive the massacre. Then years later, knowing he spent years training in attempts to become strong enough to kill him. He easily defeated him – broke his hand, used his Mangekyo to force him to relive the massacre for 24 hours, and told him he didn’t have enough hatred. Thus resulting in Sasuke leaving Konoha to go to Orochimaru to better be able to become strong enough to kill him. Furthermore he failed to keep Sasuke from learning the truth.

      All your complaints about Sasuke are Itachi’s fault.

      • Lazarinth says:

        Not really. Sasuke chose to seek out Orochimaru despite knowing Itachi had beaten him and Sasuke chose to start a war despite knowing Itachi was trying to prevent one. Most of my complaints are spawned from Sasuke reacting stupidly despite Itachi’s wishes.

      • . says:

        It seems i can’t reply directly under your comment.

        He never wanted to start a war. He understood and knew Itachi’s wishes but didn’t agree with him.

      • . says:

        Nevermind, the box is actually above the comment when typing it yet after posting the comment it appears below. I can’t even delete nor edit my comments.

        Anyway there’s another in moderation thoroughly explaining things.

      • What you wrote on imgur was (both grammatically and argumentatively) bad:

        Sasuke’s story is of a Shinobi who descended into the darkness
        (By joining an evil group of shinobi, ironically something Itachi himself did, despite saying he wouldn’t follow in his brother’s footsteps. He did it to become strong enough to beat Itachi, despite knowing that Orochimaru had already been defeated by him and wanted his body for this reason. Duh-doi!)
        & eventually rose to the light.
        (Showing that either he realized motives were stupid because he was proven wrong by Naruto, or that he did still believe in them but just didn’t have the resolve to see them through.)
        [Overcoming] his desire for revenge & his clan’s curse of hatred. [Dangling participle]
        (A clan of one… congratulations, I guess?)
        [Becoming] one of the greatest protectors of not only Konoha, but the world. [Dangling participle]
        (I’m not going to argue for or against Boruto, the title speaks for itself.)
        [Supporting] from the shadows like a true Shinobi. [Dangling participle]
        (“Like” is a stretch here. Someone needs to look up the history of shinobi.)
        Ever since his older brother murdered their clan,
        (Completely unnecessary to get stop a coup. It says in the manga that not all Uchiha were involved, so basically he killed hundreds of innocents for no other reason than a potential future insurrection, which Sasuke does anyway. So basically a whole clan dies for no reason. Good job, Itachi!)
        Sasuke wanted to avenge their family by killing him.
        (This is the only part of Sasuke’s story that makes sense. If his story was one of his desire for revenge turning into a desire for justice for his people, there would actually be a moral to this story, but no.)
        He vowed that no matter what[] he would gain the power to do so. [Missing comma]
        (Except following Itachi’s path by not killing Naruto to get the mangekyou sharingan, which wait, he decides doesn’t matter later on… and follows a group of want ninja… and become a mass murderer himself… where is a consistency here? That’s right, there is none.)
        [Which] eventually led him to abandoning his comrades & village to achieve his goal. [No subject]
        (To go learn from some that he knows Itachi already defeated, which he knows wants to use his body, and which he knows are weaker than many of the S-Ranked ninja in Konoha!)
        After fighting [Itachi] to the death, [he] learned the truth. [Subject switch]
        (Itachi dies of a sickness which would have killed him anyway, making Sasuke’s revenge quest completely pointless other than to see it happened by other means than his own.)
        [That] Itachi was ordered to kill their clan on behalf of Konoha to stop them from committing a Coup against the Government that oppressed them. [Dangling participle]
        (Which Itachi could have refused to do considering the mission wasn’t voted on unanimously. Itachi’s character is written just as bad, if not worse than Sasuke’s)
        [His] vengeance then directed toward the village. [Subject switch]
        (Despite knowing that his brother did it for the village to prevent war? Did he think so little of his brother that he believed they could trick him into killing his whole clan and then not get revenge himself? How little did he think of his Itachi if he was like “Oh whoops, I killed my family because I was tricked.” and then not do something about it himself?)
        Seeing his [Brother] during the war made him reconsider things. [Not a proper noun]
        (Did it really? He still seems thinks that Itachi was a victim of the system at this point, despite Itachi acting by his own retarded beliefs that his action would’ve prevent war, which they didn’t.)
        Itachi showed no remorse nor ill-will toward Konoha whosoever.
        (No duh! Because he decided to do the mission to unnecessarily kill EVERYONE in his clan despite not having a unanimous vote. Damn right it wasn’t Konoha’s vault. Itachi is a paranoid schizophrenic.)
        So he wondered why. What is a Clan? What is a Shinobi? What is a Village? Why are they so important that Itachi would sacrifice their [Clan] to protect Konoha as it’s loyal Shinobi? [Not a proper noun]
        (All moot as his actions were excessive in the extreme.)
        He chose to speak with the Hokages’ to gain a better understanding of things. To decide whether to side with the village or his clan. [Dangling participle]
        (Does he do this? This might have made sense but your links don’t show him speaking with them.)
        Now knowing the importance of Shinobi & Villages, how they’re more important than individual clans,
        (Considering the clans power struggle created the village, this argument is strange.)
        Sasuke sought to change the corrupt system that led to things such as the Uchiha Massacre & multiple World Wars.
        (Itachi did the massacre on his own volition, wars are a natural part of power’s effect on human tribal psychology. Unless this series is trying to redefine war, you should really do some more research on evolutionary psychology if you want to know how retarded this is.)
        [To protect from the shadows like a true Shinobi.] [Repeatition from previous statement.]
        He realized that the village itself wasn’t the problem – the system was, and formed a better plan for peace than Madara, Obito, and Nagato.
        (No, he didn’t. Peace through fear or enmity of one man is not a better plan. As soon as that man dies the power vacuum would result in even more conflict and victims. Duh Doi!)
        At first[] he tried handling everything on his own through his [Revolution] plan. [Missing comma] [Proper noun?] [But] Naruto convinced him to work with his allies to ensure peace is maintained.
        [Already explained why this is retarded. The fact that Sasuke changed his mind is a testament that he realized this glaringly obvious problem or that he didn’t really think it through to begin with, which I wouldn’t really put it past him to do. Considering the inconsistencies in his character, it seems to be common theme. If Kishimoto didn’t write him badly, then I will as least give you that she writes a really compelling ‘dumb’ character.]
        He’s been doing so ever since.
        [Bor…ruto]
        His character & development is phenomenal.
        (phenomenally stupid)
        In addition to this, he has great abilities, skills, and battles throughout the entire series.
        (… making most people completely ignore these glaring issues in his story. But then, I could do a whole new one of these of the inconsistencies in his powers.)

      • Decided to make a post on your imgur thing BTW.

  20. I agree with you. I’ve never liked his character. Yes it’s said his family died, then does all of this against his land for revenege, then finds out his brother is really a hero then is still against the village who’s been trying to help him this whole time. Then he’s OK because natuto beat him and is a nomad. 😧Make up your mind are you for the village or not, do you want friends or not. I still don’t think his character got closure.

  21. Akaluv says:

    I wish I could say more, but I didn’t finish the Naruto anime. It was way toooooooo long for me.

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